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9 months 4 hours ago - 9 months 3 hours ago #259465 by Neayen_496744
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Hello everyone,
Thank you to those who will be reading and those who will be able to reply,
We are currently working in partnership with a panelist, they are asking us for several redirection links:

- Survey End Links
- Survey Success URL
- Survey Terminate URL
- Quota Full Terminate URL

Being new to this field, we haven't had this kind of request before,
Do I have to provide the links myself? I didn't get any other information,
I then created a questionnaire with several questions for each corresponding link, so I have this kind of link for the screen out for example:

absem.limesurvey.net/377491?return=scree...=%7BPASSTHRU:LSid%7D

Does this seem correct to you? Or maybe I didn't understand the request, thank you for your information.

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Your LimeSurvey version: LimeSurvey Cloud Version 6.4.12
Own server or LimeSurvey hosting: LimeSurvey hosting
Survey theme/template: Redirect link
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9 months 3 hours ago - 9 months 3 hours ago #259466 by Joffm
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Hi,
first question:
What does the panelist add to your generic link of the survey?
He will add something, usually the id of the participant.
You have to know how this parameter is named.
After you know this parametername we can shgow you exactly what to do.

And PASSTHRU isn't necessary. Either you may use panel integration or a simple question of type "short text" to capture the added parameter.

Then you create your redirect links, best in an equation.
Screenout and Quotafull you enter in your quota managemant
Complete in your end-url.

And "Terminate"? What and how will you redirect if the participant just closes the browser?

In the German part there is my "Tutorial 4: ", where you find a chapter about panels. (So if you feel able to read German or to use Google translate,...)

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9 months 3 hours ago #259468 by Neayen_496744
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Hello Joffm,
Thanks for your quick and clear reply!
I modify my post by adding the missing information,
The panelist told me he wanted to use this parameter name to capture the ID:
resp_id

I'll translate the tutorial you gave me into German

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2 months 2 weeks ago #267362 by Pushya
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Hello Joffm,

I need some help with integrating these links as well.

My panellist provided me with all the redirect links. Am I supposed to use those links as end URLs and qualification termination links in one of the quotas?

I have attached a few screenshots for you to look at and check if I am doing something wrong.

1. https://mail.dlr.de/owa/service.svc/s/GetFileAttachment?id=AAMkADBhMDhlOTI0LWViMDQtNDIyYi1hMTZkLTY1YTdkOTcwYmI0NgBGAAAAAAC6q4qUcYrmT5%2BzNllxlL4CBwCRFEQrpoHpT70hgMPsAhu%2BAAAAAAEJAACRFEQrpoHpT70hgMPsAhu%2BAADpunOmAAABEgAQAIPEbMB%2BtydGt8mbjxdvrvI%3D&X-OWA-CANARY=2VFwgMczs0aOKXyRgXGT8BD1dIG_7dwIcQjKp0uhxThOCfupoiNelodK1FIeLqk9pn4SxdYRG_U.&isImagePreview=TrueI have used the first link as the end URL, and
2. I have defined the termination quota for 18 and under. 
3. The page I end up with if I select under 18 as an answer.

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2 months 2 weeks ago #267371 by holch
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Looks strange. Why are there two different domains? One is from insights.supply and the other one is from samplicio.us. Shouldn't all redirect URLs redirect to the same domain?

That would be my first point that sounds odd to me (but not impossible, they might use different domains for different things).

Also: How are we supposed to know what is going wrong without know what you were asked to do by your panel provider (panelist is usually the person that participantes in a panel).

And the result of the "screenout" seems to be fine. If you chose unter 18 and you get this text, sounds about right, because you are not part of the target group. Maybe I am missing something.

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2 months 2 weeks ago #267378 by Pushya
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This is what they are expecting me to do:
To use redirect links for LimeSurvey:
Complete:
notch.insights.supply/cb?token=c48f9f81-...{PASSTHRU:RID}&rst=1
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Qualification Termination:
samplicio.us/s/ClientCallBack.aspx?RIS=2...{PASSTHRU:RID}&rst=3
Also, I have attached their guide.

Now, they expect to see an ID at my end for each respondent, something like this: "670D2485-B8AC-1D00-271B-5EDF0C39FC7A". Which I am not able to see for any respondent. 

I have adopted the complete and termination links in my survey, but they claim that it is not properly redirected. I am unable to figure out what is going wrong.

Also, I could not select the target question I wanted (Yes/No question) while defining the URL parameter in panel integration (could only choose questions with written / free text type answers). I have attached the screenshot below.

I hope this detail helps you figure out what the problem might be. Please let me know if you do.
 

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2 months 2 weeks ago #267380 by Joffm
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Hm,
for me it is strange that you store the parameter RID into a question "What is the make..."

1. For such simple parameters it is not necessary to use "Panel integration". It is sufficient to create a question "RID".
2. Personally I never use this "PASSTHRU"
Just use notch.insights.supply/cb?token=c48f9f81-...&RID={RID}&rst=1
and samplicio.us/s/ClientCallBack.aspx?RIS=2...&RID={RID}&rst=3

Panel integration is necessary if the name of the parameter is not a valid quesion code in LimeSurvey.

3. You always can check the link by disabling the automatic load of the end-url.

4. Instead of showing some screenshots you'd better send the lss export of the survey. Then we can test ourselves and see where there mmay be a mistake.

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2 months 2 weeks ago - 2 months 2 weeks ago #267382 by holch
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And you really should make a little google search for samplicio.us and see what survey takers say about them... (I have never worked with them nor heard about them before today). Which is why I googled them.

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2 months 2 weeks ago #267384 by Pushya
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Here is the .lss file. Please do check for any mistakes.

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2 months 2 weeks ago - 2 months 2 weeks ago #267389 by holch
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I had a quick look at your survey and as expected, you sent us the full survey, so now we need to find our way to what the important bits are. Not ideal.

However, first problem was already identified by Joffm.

If you use the panel integration, you need to save the id (RID) that will passed to you via the survey URL by the panel into a question that you will later hide. However, you have not specified any quesiton where you want to store this ID.

Ideally, create a text question with the question code RID and save it there at the beginning of the survey and then hide it via GUI (Always hide question).

To test all this if it works, of course you need to use a survey URL that passes this RID to your survey via the URL.

Also, the redirect URL that you have in the quota redirect looks like this:

samplicio.us/s/ClientCallBack.aspx?RIS=2...:RID%7D&rst=3{/quote ]

I highly doubt this will work, because Limesurvey will not recognize the RID this way, it will just use this exact URL for everyone. Because Limesurvey needs to know what to substitute and you are missing the {} which indicate that this is a variable that Limesurvey should consider.

It probably will need to look something like this:

Code:
https://samplicio.us/s/ClientCallBack.aspx?RIS=20&RID={PASSTHRU:RID}&rst=3

However, you are missing two different concepts, PASSTHROUGH and PANEL INTEGRATION. Use one or the other.

As Passthrough is using the antiquated SGQA identifier, I will drop that.

I am not gonna test your whole survey, it is just too long. Create a small sample survey that basically only demonstrates the END URL and the Quota screen out and focus on one approach, ideally panel integration or the even simpler approach of creating a hidden question called RID. If the variable that is passed via the survey link to the survey is called RID, Limesurvey should automatically store the variable called RID into this question and then with {RID} you can pipe it into the end or quota urls where needed.

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2 months 2 weeks ago #267390 by holch
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Also: Why ask for the age twice? I understand that you want to screen people out at the beginning based on their age.

But instead of asking if they are 18 or above and then ask the age bracket again in the demographics, just ask the age brackets at the begining and use this question for both, the screenout at the beginning and for the demographics. Don't ask it again at the end.

Also: A good panel provider should have age data and be able to only send people above a certain age to your survey.

Also: Asking the age so obviously in a survey via a panel will just not work. You need to understand how panels work. The panelists want to get points/rewards. They only get points/rewards if they make it through the screener and to the end of the survey. Over time they have learned how screeners work and many will know that the 'right' answer here will be 18 and above. So at least I would try to make it a little less obvious and even seperate the age brackets below 18, to make it less obvious in that first question:

1. Under 14
2. 14-17
3. 18-25
4. 26-35,
etc.

Something like that. I guess you get what I want to say.

This way it is not sooo obvious that they will be screened out if they answer "below 18 years".

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2 months 2 weeks ago - 2 months 2 weeks ago #267391 by Joffm
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Hi,
1. there is no question to store the RID.
Create a hidden short text question in the first group RID

2. Your links seem to be broken. Did you copy them?
See
 

Now when I change the links to
Code:
https://samplicio.us/s/ClientCallBack.aspx?RIS=20&RID={RID}&rst=3
(The end-url analogue.)
And the editor changed the simple ampersand to the HTML entity. Horrible.

Now I get this

a. screen out
Survey started with RID=Fitzliputzli
 
and
 
You see the parameter is stored. Of course this question has to be hidden.

There is the screen out link
 

b. full survey
Survey started with RID=Hotzenplotz
And we get the end-url as.
 

So everything is fine.

Joffm

@holch already had some remarks concerning the survey.
I did not look at the logic.

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