Hey community,

I need some advice on group presentation.


My question groups need to occur randomly, so I assigned them to "randomization groups", and this works fine. However, I also need for one of these question goups, call it A, that it is always followed by the same question group B.

So e.g.

Q Q Q A B Q Q

or

Q A B Q Q Q Q

etc.

Is there a way to do this?

Best regards

Not in core LimeSurvey

If we would have a real "page" concept besides the "group" concept, this would be easy peasy. But we don't. And from the opinion in some of my feature requests we probably will never get a real "page" concept.

holch wrote: If we would have a real "page" concept besides the "group" concept, this would be easy peasy. But we don't. And from the opinion in some of my feature requests we probably will never get a real "page" concept.

You can not say be easy ...

It can be done in plugin on LimeSurvey 4, but still not easy.

You could hide half of the content in a group and use the "Next" button to hide the first half and show the second half of the content, simulating the submission of a group.

Caveats:
- You may need some validation on the "Next" clicks to verify that mandatory questions are answered.
- Returning to the group may be problematic.

tpartner wrote: You could hide half of the content in a group and use the "Next" button to hide the first half and show the second half of the content, simulating the submission of a group.

Caveats:
- You may need some validation on the "Next" clicks to verify that mandatory questions are answered.
- Returning to the group may be problematic.

Yes, but i don't think it's OK with needed system.

Group B must be after group A
Group A position must be randomized (at position 1, 2, 3 etc ...)

Clearly : can be done in a complex plugin in 4.X
setVariableExpressionEnd usage
Sample of usage for reconstruction of questionnaire

Group B must be after group A
Group A position must be randomized (at position 1, 2, 3 etc ...)

I understand - I would put the contents of group B in group A and initially hide the group B stuff.

tpartner wrote:

Group B must be after group A
Group A position must be randomized (at position 1, 2, 3 etc ...)

I understand - I would put the contents of group B in group A and initially hide the group B stuff.

Yes , it's the solution of 1st line, not for 2nd

1.Group B must be after group A ! Javascript solution to "cut" a group visually
2. Group A position must be randomized (at position 1, 2, 3 etc ...) : ?

For 2 : maybe create
- add befor all ShowGroupA equation with {if(is_empty(self.NAOK),rand(1,4),self.NAOK)} -(unsure it work like that, didn' remnd)
- AB1 at position 1 with condition ShowGroupA ==1
- AB2 at position 2 with condition ShowGroupA ==2
- AB3 at position 3 with condition ShowGroupA =
- AB4 at position 4 with condition ShowGroupA ==4

etc ...

Finally :! make a plugin (in 4.X) can be more easy ...

That is how I made it at the end. Looking forward to using V4.0 soon to hopefully to this fast and easy

I don't see the need for a plugin. I thought all groups are randomized - "My question groups need to occur randomly, so I assigned them to "randomization groups", and this works fine.".

They all should be randomized up to B. Question group B should always follow question group A. The bundle AB however should be randomly occur. As your comment above - hiding B in A - is one option, but not ideal. It would be much better for us to have a separate page for B hence I created a separate question group for B and tried to let it follow A. Being able to do exactly this is what I mean by a nice plugin for V4.0.

DenisChenu wrote:

holch wrote: If we would have a real "page" concept besides the "group" concept, this would be easy peasy. But we don't. And from the opinion in some of my feature requests we probably will never get a real "page" concept.

You can not say be easy ...

It can be done in plugin on LimeSurvey 4, but still not easy.

I am not saying that implementing a page concept into Limesurvey would be easy.

I am no developer and thus I am in no position to reliably estimate the effort it would take to implement a page concept in addition to the group concept that we already have. Due to the complexity of Limesurvey, I would guess that it would have many touch points in different functionalities in Limesurvey and is probably quite some work.

What I am saying is, that IF WE WOULD HAVE a page concept, besides the group concept, it would be easy to do what OP wants to do. Not more, not less. Or call it something like "visual question groups" (pages) and "logical question groups" (current question groups). In some projects these might be actually the same, but sometimes, like here, you need to group questions logically, but you want to separate them visually (different pages).