Hi all,
how can I validate multiple options question with secondary options? I used workaround from the manual ( Here in Lime Manual ), and everything works perfectly. But in my scenario, I want to force a participant wich check primary answer to chose at list one of the appropriate secondary options.

My Lime: Version 2.72.3+171020

Any hints are highly appreciated

Payek

Hi,
you know the code of the primary answer (PA) and the code of the secondary answers (SA1, SA2).

That means, this must be true:
PA=="Y" and (SA1=="Y" or SA2=="Y")
PA!="Y" and SA1!="Y" and SA2!="Y"

Okay, you have to dapt to your needs.
Joffm

A bit more detailled:

Enter the following in "question validation"
((Q1_PA=="Y") AND ((Q1_SA1=="Y") OR (Q1_SA2=="Y"))) OR ((Q1_PA!="Y") AND (Q1_SA1!="Y") AND (Q1_SA2!="Y"))

1. Error:


2. Fine

Thank you very much, working perfectly!
Just for the record - you can use 'Question validation tip' to explain to participants what kind of answer do you expect.

THX! Joffm,

Payek

Hi,
therefore was the second line in the screenshot.
Well, it's German, because it was a quick and dirty example.
Meaning here: "If 1, then alo 2 or 3"

Joffm

And the first line is Spanish, because I used an old survey with base language Spanish.

So it's a mix, but just to help as fast as possible.

Hi,
Once more THX! for your help. I wrote about 'Tip" to make life easier for other fresh lemons (like me) for whom it isn't as obvious as for ripe ones

Payek

Hi again,
I made some tests and find two issues linked to validation mentioned above.
1. You can't use "exclusive option" (from advanced settings) because it always gives you an error.
2. When you mark the primary option validation tip appears, then when you mark secondary option tip disappear - it's OK. But when you unmark primary option (with marked secondary) error message appears (but you can submit the question). This behavior can be confusing for the participant.

My Lime version is 2.72.3+171020 and I used the workaround implementation for 2.5

I create a short test survey here: TEST - Secondary multiple options (for LS version 2.5)

THX for any suggestions,

Payek

I see,
but you did not send a *.lss file. So I cannot see your validation.

On the other side you use a non-standard workaround.
Maybe you can improve the validation.

Or you restructure the question.
I can recommend Headers (advisable if nearly each option has suboptions):


Or just split the question (advisable if only a few options have suboptions):

Advantage: The cleanest way. It's standard out of the box.

Regards
Joffm

Thank you for the answer,
secondary options are quite useful in my survey (I think not only in my), but, as you write, it can be easily replaced with multiple options with headers. I'm not a programmer, but f I find any solution I share it here

Payek

Hi,
sorry, I forgot to add the sample survey.


Joffm