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11 months 3 weeks ago #242075 by ollehar
We're proud to announce our latest major LimeSurvey release 6.0, which includes a conversion to Bootstrap 5 and a new admin theme.

You can download it at community.limesurvey.org/downloads/

Note that since it includes a change in the CSS framework, old survey themes will not be compatible with the new release.
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11 months 3 weeks ago - 11 months 3 weeks ago #242113 by DenisChenu
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No, non, no !!

Please : add a menu inside the questions part …

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11 months 3 weeks ago #242118 by ollehar
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No, non, no !!

Adding a menu here is totally a broken concept ! UX totally broken here.
 

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Please : add a menu inside the questions part …
Not sure I'd call it "totally broken". :) UX is done by our UX people, but we can send them your feedback.

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11 months 3 weeks ago #242119 by jelo
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When will we see the first post here asking about how to collapse a question group? Answer: clicking on the number of questions in that group
That issue was reported before. There seems to be no holistic concept of UX. It's hard to do that. People can handle inconsistency if it speeds up things (e.g. reduce amount of clicks to get things done).
But perhaps there is a concept we don't grasp.

For the longlist of UX glitches (not important, not urgent). SimplePlugins (Menu inside a survey) shows an < button without any functionality.

The meaning of the word "stable" for users
www.limesurvey.org/forum/development/117...ord-stable-for-users

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11 months 3 weeks ago #242120 by ollehar
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Thanks, Jelo! Both the issues you mentioned are in our backlog for 6.0.x.

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11 months 3 weeks ago #242151 by DenisChenu
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Not sure I'd call it "totally broken". :) UX is done by our UX people, but we can send them your feedback.
Then your UX team want a menu not used …

3 buttons for previewing , and none for Set condition or Set default value (or delete …)

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11 months 3 weeks ago #242178 by holch
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Where would the UX team want to get feedback, if at all?

I think the bug tracker is not a good place to discuss issues, so I would rather discuss in a forum thread, but I adapt to what the preference is.

One example: while I agree that whitespace is good, the main screen could easily fit on a fullHD screen if we would be a little less "wasteful":

 

We have huge buttons, a lot of space between those fields and a completely useless logo and text "This is the LimeSurvey admin interface. Start to build your survey from here." (no shit?!).

Get rid of this weird logo and text, it is absolutely useless. Who needs to be reminded that they are in the Limesurvey Admin Interface and what they can do here. No one needs to be reminded of this every single time the log in. Put the logo in the black navigation bar and make it smaller.

On a FullHD screen there should be no need to scroll for this start page.

The "Welcome to Limesurvey" popup shows all the time. Is there any way to get rid of it? 

 

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11 months 3 weeks ago #242182 by lfanfoni
Replied by lfanfoni on topic LimeSurvey 6.0 is available for download
The incompatibility of themes between versions 5 and 6 will make the transitions very difficult.
Currently there is this situation:
- the current download version is 6.0.0, there is no trace of the latest version 5 for download. Has it been abolished, canceled, wiped off the face of the earth? I think version5 should be considered LTS like version3.
- with ComfortUpdate you can still update to 5.6.14, until when?
- in LimesurveyCloud I get a 5.6.13, until when?
In short: more than the UX of this version, I am quite scared of the migrations of the current surveys from 5 to 6.

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11 months 3 weeks ago #242185 by ollehar
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LS 5 will become the new LTS, supported for at least one year, we're just a bit slow with the page modifications.

LS 3 will be supported until second quarter of 2023.
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11 months 3 weeks ago #242197 by DenisChenu
Replied by DenisChenu on topic LimeSurvey 6.0 is available for download

LS 5 will become the new LTS, supported for at least one year, we're just a bit slow with the page modifications.
 
Great : github.com/LimeSurvey/LimeSurvey/tree/5.x-LTS

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11 months 2 weeks ago #242423 by Indispirit
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It's great that there's progress but as a friendly criticism as a long-time (paying) user this really isn't a good way to announce a new major update.

I'd suggest drafting something that covers all the issues that have been revealed piecemeal in that chat at a minimum.

Could you please unpack the comment:
"since it includes a change in the CSS framework, old survey themes will not be compatible with the new release. "

Is this a blanket incompatabilty, or will themes based on the default themes supplied maintain some compatability?
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11 months 1 week ago #242598 by Leithy
Replied by Leithy on topic LimeSurvey 6.0 is available for download
Thanks giving it a try now.

Quick feedback - default answers are extremely hard to find now - suggest adding them to the edit screen in a tab alongside "Question" and "Help"
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