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7 months 3 weeks ago - 7 months 3 weeks ago #242601 by DenisChenu
Replied by DenisChenu on topic LimeSurvey 6.0 is available for download

Thanks giving it a try now.

Quick feedback - default answers are extremely hard to find now - suggest adding them to the edit screen in a tab alongside "Question" and "Help"

 
Please report as an Ergonomy issue : community.limesurvey.org/bug-tracker/
Example : bugs.limesurvey.org/view.php?id=18735


 

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7 months 2 weeks ago - 7 months 2 weeks ago #242795 by evaluation2023
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Hi,

i tried to test surveymenu-function and wanted to create a new menu (index.php/admin/menus/sa/view) unfortunately when i click on the green "create-button", nothing happens, tried in Chrome and MS Edge - same :-(

when trying to add a new menu-entry - same beaviour...

I also read the information on  manual.limesurvey.org/Menu_entries_configuration
Unfortunately when I press the green Save-Button, nothing happens...

 

PHP Version 8.0.28
Version 5.6.4+230206
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7 months 1 week ago #242855 by Jmantysalo
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Has someone tested if Shibboleth plugin works with version 6?

Note: If I asked something and forgot to say version, I am using LS 5.x.

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7 months 1 week ago #242859 by DenisChenu
Replied by DenisChenu on topic LimeSurvey 6.0 is available for download

Has someone tested if Shibboleth plugin works with version 6?
 
Maybe move it to Plugins section ?

If you already have an auth system : it can be easy to test.
I need to test AuthCAS …

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7 months 1 week ago #242871 by Jmantysalo
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If you already have an auth system : it can be easy to test.

Kind of: If it does not work at all, it is fast to see. But how about changing the name, for example?

Besides, I am lazy. :) That's why I asked if someone has already done that.

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4 months 2 days ago #245641 by tassoman
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Hello there,
  I'm a bit confused by version management. I write to ask informations about plans for LS 3.x branch security support. And, in general, about stable LTS development plans.
  • Until when, 3.x branch will be supported? Download page now claims "Support end: End of June 2023 (supports PHP 5.5.9 to 7.4.x)". Today is early August 23 and the latest patch is 68+230809
  • Is it LS 5.x mature enough to be stable LTS? Actually 5.6.x was patched 33 times. (supports PHP 7.2.5 to 8.0.x)
  • What happened to LS 4.x branch? Is LS 6.x branch an unstable testbed? (requires PHP 7.4.x or newer)
The question covers also system administration, because of PHP lifecycle. PHP8.0 deadline is set in Nov.23. So if you plan to make 5.x branch a LTS for entire 2024 (as read in previous posts). Branch 5.x must be compatible as soon as possible with PHP8.1 deprecations.
Do you have some more informations about this? We're planning systems migration from 3.x branch and I need to report about LS roadmap.
Thank you in advance.

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4 months 2 days ago #245642 by jelo
There will be no more LTS version.

PHP 8.0 will be EOL 26 Nov 2023
PHP 8.1. will be EOL 25 Nov 2024

LS3 will rund under patched PHP 7 version a bit longer than the EOL of PHP7 implies.
The elephant in room is if LS5 will run under PHP 8.2.
Currently LS5 seems to end with PHP 8.1.
Currently only LS6 will run under plain PHP 8.2.

Take a look at the roadmap wiki page:
manual.limesurvey.org/LimeSurvey_roadmap

You no longer can plan to use a LS version very long.
Which is the same as with many other open source projects.
But these other projects seldom break that much when moving on.

The meaning of the word "stable" for users
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4 months 2 days ago - 4 months 2 days ago #245643 by holch
Here my two cents, but hopefully you get a more "official" response as well.

LS 3.x: I would expect LS 3.x to run out any time soon. We are lucky that it is still supported, even after June 2023, but I wouldn't rely too much on it, because I expect EOL soon.

LS 4.x: Was basically "re-namend" to LS 5.x, not 100% sure why.

LS 5.x: I find LS 5 fairly stable. frequent patches are normal with Limesurvey, even LS 3 received quite a few patches for being LTS.

LS 6.x: Mainly a changed admin interface, not much change in functionality compared to LS 5, at least in my impression.

I actually would expect LS 6 to turn LTS instead of LS 5, but that is just my thinking. Not sure what the Limesurvey GmbH is planning.

The LS roadmap has always been quite flexible and liquid, rather than a rule written in stone. So even if you get a clear answer now, this might change in a couple of weeks. That is how it has always been. The roadmap is a "suggestion", a "possibility" rather than a fixed plan. :-)

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4 months 2 days ago #245644 by tassoman
Replied by tassoman on topic LimeSurvey 6.0 is available for download
Thank you for hinting the roadmap page I was missing it.
I understand and enjoy the ability of the LS Core Team to develop short iterations. For this reason our maintenance mode has got more elastic and we can stay updated with stable updates early.

In the past days I happily tested a working migration from 3.x directly to 6.1.8 but 6.2.0 broke things. I enjoy the new UI simplification but also read release notes and sometimes security issues occurs at 6.x floor.

At this moment if "the captain" will say "let's abandon ship 3.x" our staff is nearly ready. We only need a security audit from our security office and accessibility audit from web administrators. The only limitation is if 5.x can't pass security and accessibility tests. But I can bet will be a short time, because of fast release circle and ability to cooperate on GitHub.

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4 months 2 days ago #245645 by jelo

I actually would expect LS 6 to turn LTS instead of LS 5, but that is just my thinking. Not sure what the Limesurvey GmbH is planning.
 
Once again. The LimeSurvey GmbH has abandoned the LTS concept.They will support each LS version for at least two years.



 

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4 months 1 day ago #245648 by holch

The LimeSurvey GmbH has abandoned the LTS concept.


good to know.

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