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8 years 7 months ago #147310 by frisket
A student set her survey to use token management and has successfully distributed it to her subjects.
She now finds some additional subjects but they cannot use email to receive the message, nor use their browser to fill it in.
She is can administer these surveys by hand (interview-style), but when she tries to enter the data, Limesurvey asks for a token value (of course), which does not exist for these subjects.

If she copies the survey to a new survey and turns token management off, she can then fill in the manually-gathered data.
But can she then concatenate the two surveys to make one set of results (maybe by dropping the token field from the first one)?
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8 years 7 months ago #147321 by DenisChenu
Use vv export / vv import : it's done for this.

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8 years 7 months ago #147335 by holch
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Easiest way: Use the data entry portion of Limesurvey.
Second easiest way: add dummy tokens for these respondents.
Third easiest option: export the two results as CSV open them in Excel and copy them together.

Of course you could export and import from one to the other installation, but I think you don't care if the results are all in the same installation anyway, you just need one data set with all responses.

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8 years 7 months ago #147338 by DenisChenu
@holch :
- Go to survey without token, export VV
- Go to survey with token import VV with good checkbox (create a new entry)

It's done ...

This can not be more simple .....

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8 years 7 months ago #147339 by frisket
Yes, she's already going to use the data-entry facilities, on a copy that has tokens turned off.
I couldn't find anywhere in the manual to generate dummy tokens that didn't require an email address and a lot of other metadata per subject first.
She wants to use Limesurvey's own stats, not SPSS or other external system, so she wants to catenate the data in Limesurvey.
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8 years 7 months ago #147340 by frisket
I could not find an export format called VV, only .lss, .lsa, .xml, and .txt.
I am using Version 2.06+ Build 151215
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8 years 7 months ago #147342 by holch
Replied by holch on topic Concatenating survey results

This can not be more simple .....

Hmm, you need to create a second survey first. Not a huge deal, but I think creating a number of additional tokens is probably easier. But hey, what do I know...

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8 years 7 months ago - 8 years 7 months ago #147343 by holch
Replied by holch on topic Concatenating survey results

She wants to use Limesurvey's own stats, not SPSS or other external system, so she wants to catenate the data in Limesurvey.


You can easily create dummy emails.

But to be honest, the statistics in Limesurvey are not really made for analysis. They are very good for giving you a first idea of the results, but I would always analyse outside of LS. But of course I don't really know the project, your/her requirements, etc.

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Last edit: 8 years 7 months ago by holch. Reason: Deleted a comment that was not correct
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8 years 7 months ago - 8 years 7 months ago #147345 by Joffm
Replied by Joffm on topic Concatenating survey results
Hi, frisket, (I see, holch was a second faster)

I could not find an export format called VV, only .lss, .lsa, .xml, and .txt.

You looked into the export of the survey structure.

But you want to export the answers.
That's in "Responses and Statistics".
And here you find two icons to import or export VV.

BTW
I agree to holch: To add some dummy tokens would have been the easiest way.
And following your approach with two surveys: IMHO anybody should be able to export the two data files to EXCEL and merge them.

She wants to use Limesurvey's own stats, not SPSS or other external system

Really? Here is nothing. Just frequencies and some statistical key figures like mean, quartiles, median in numerical questions.
You have no cross tabs, no basic statistical tests like t-Text or CHI-Square.

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8 years 7 months ago #147383 by DenisChenu
@Joffm and @holch : i didn't understand why you don't like VV ? It's really the speediest way , you don't need to create a new survey ? What for ?
Export complete responses from the first survey and delete it, import in the 2nd survey : all responses are here. One and 2 day after : do same job etc ....

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8 years 7 months ago #147384 by frisket
OK, gottit, thanks. That piece of the interface could do with some reworking. BTW what does VV stand for?

Generating dummy tokens was my first approach, but that would require dummy addresses, names, etc (these additional responses are going to be anonymous, for unrelated small-p-political reasons).

This is a set of undergraduate surveys, half a dozen questions. No requirement for anything beyond head counts, means and standard deviations.
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8 years 7 months ago #147386 by frisket
Incidentally, is there a reason to append the data from the first survey to the second, instead of appending the data from the second survey to the first?
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8 years 7 months ago #147390 by DenisChenu
It's like you want :) .

Sometimes i use 3 survey too : one closed (by time), and others one with different question in each, some are same. The closed one get all response (but i hack response id to allowing update/not replace).

VV : a .... don't remind why it's named like this .....

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8 years 7 months ago #147395 by holch
Replied by holch on topic Concatenating survey results
Same here, Denis, same here. I don't understand why you don't like creating dummy tokens... ;-)

Your approach is relatively quick, I agree. And I understand it better now. I wouldn't say it is necessarily the "quickest" approach.

I normally prefer not to delete any data and rather create a few extra dummy tokens, then exporting a file, deleting the responses from the survey, open it, do the data entry and then import the old data. I would personally prefer to go via some dummy tokens that are also created very quickly. I think there is even a function in LS now, isn't it? And if not, you create a quick CSV file, upload it, done.

I guess it is just some kind of personal preference and "workflow" thing.

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8 years 7 months ago #147398 by DenisChenu
I normally prefer not to delete any data : +1 here :)

In fact : i think dummy token are OK, but need a lot of manual update : and all manual update are unsure.

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